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Rune v3nus
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Posted - 2009.08.01 21:09:00 -
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hi ccp,
i am abit frustrated with this probing system. i probed down several sites until i was at 0.5 au probes and it gave me 100% result but no warp to then i got 0.25 au probes and still it gets me 100% but not warp to. now i have a red sphere at 100% with 0.25 au probes and i can shift them around like i want and use 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 in whatever alignemnet but still same red sphere 100%.
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Rune v3nus
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Posted - 2009.08.01 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Rune v3nus hi ccp, now i have a red sphere at 100%
Your probes are too near to each other.
thank you for the input. i tried all variations i could think of. really it is a bit of a frustrating system.
skills arent to bad either.
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Rune v3nus
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Posted - 2009.08.01 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sniper Wolf18 How about posting on the forums and looking like more of a moron you do a quick google search?
whats this in english
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Rune v3nus
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Posted - 2009.08.01 21:37:00 -
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http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Apocrypha_probing
does not help it at all
so can this be considered a bug?
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Rune v3nus
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Posted - 2009.08.01 21:41:00 -
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Edited by: Rune v3nus on 01/08/2009 21:44:09
Originally by: Tippia Your problem is that you only get a hit from one of your probing locations.
You need 4 probing locations, no more no less.
You need to place these so that they completely surround the target in every direction so that they don't all sit on the same point, line, or plane.
You need to have them at some distance from the target, not on top of it.
You need the target to be within range of all four probes.
The easiest way to make this happen is to create a tetrahedron with your probes and place the hit you're after in the middle of the volume where the spheres from all four probes intersect each other.
thanks - very good descirption - it is what i tried numerous times and still no better hit - it just remains a red sphere with 0.25 au probe(s) at 100% strength as it had with 0.5 au probe(s) aswell but no warp to - kinda weird
@ccp im not annoyed or something if the game is buggy here and there - i mean its eve - but i am quite annoyed if it takes away time like this for nothing tbh :/
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Rune v3nus
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Posted - 2009.08.01 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sniper Wolf18 Let me google this for you good sir!
  this is cool---didnt know it before
and yes i was on that site already (multiple times actually )
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Rune v3nus
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Posted - 2009.08.01 21:49:00 -
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Edited by: Rune v3nus on 01/08/2009 21:50:28
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Rune v3nus thanks - very good descirption - it is what i tried numerous times and still no better hit - it just remains a red sphere with 0.25 au probe(s) at 100% strength as it had with 0.5 au probe(s) aswell but no warp to - kinda weird
Is the sphere entirely enclosed within the intersection of the probes (+ a little more for deviation)?
the red sphere with 100% strength is spanning almost exactly 0.25 au, the probe covering it is more or less sitting perfectly in its center.
there is also the name in the scanner and all but no warp to despite 100% strength displayed. tried the pyramid version and whatnot. no change.
same was already when i was at 0.5 au with probes but i got a lucky hit with a 0.25 au one so now i am here.
wtb 0.1 au probes. :/
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Rune v3nus
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Posted - 2009.08.01 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 01/08/2009 21:59:33
Originally by: Rune v3nus the red sphere with 100% strength is spanning almost exactly 0.25 au, the probe covering it is more or less sitting perfectly in its center.
Well, that's your problem: you're only getting a hit (even though it's a good hit) from that one probe. You need to make sure that the other three also get a hit on it. The signal sits somewhere on the surface (¦deviation) of that sphere.
Already with this information, you can determine where to start looking. Your signal will not be in a place that any of the other probes can reach, because if it was, you'd get a at least a two-probe hit (a circle) instead. So shuffle the remaining probes around to cover the bits of the sphere that they didn't cover previously and try again.
Once you get a circle, it will be inbetween two of your probes ù those are the ones that are getting a hit, and which you should leave where they are, and any part of the circle that isn't hit by the remaining two probes is what you should move those probes to cover.
From there on, it gets messy since the three-hit signal (two dots) is bugged at the moment ù the interface will only display one of them. But at least you've narrowed the possible area down so that you can shuffle your probes around to cover the dot you can see, and the likely position of the one you can't and get a full four-probe hit that you can warp to.
The fact that you're already getting a 100% hit means that you don't need any more signal strength, and thus no finer resolution on your probes ù your only problem is probe positioning.
thank you so much - i tried it again from scratch and now i only needed 3 times to hit the scan button using only 4 probes in a square - so simple 
same with the radar site that was soo hard to find before
no what effort did i make for nothing
coudl it be in the end really that simple
but one thing really is odd - i did use this square method before
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Rune v3nus
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Posted - 2009.08.01 22:29:00 -
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Edited by: Rune v3nus on 01/08/2009 22:29:27 one thing is for sure this system really can make you sometimes fuzzy in the head
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Rune v3nus
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Posted - 2009.08.01 23:18:00 -
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Edited by: Rune v3nus on 01/08/2009 23:19:25
Originally by: Khemul Zula Edited by: Khemul Zula on 01/08/2009 23:04:23
Originally by: Rune v3nus Edited by: Rune v3nus on 01/08/2009 22:29:27 one thing is for sure this system really can make you sometimes fuzzy in the head
This is not good. It is well established that the fuzzy feeling is the result of a brain cell coming into contact with an idea, failing to find a way around said obstruction, and deciding that not existing may be a much better option then to continue on its current route.
It is a self correcting effect though. Unless of course the other cells decide "we must figure out what killed Fred!"...brain cells (contrary to their own belief) are not all that bright. Stomach cells on the other hand tend to be better focused, have a much better outlook on life, and tend not to worry about things (except "where be food?").
 this is basicly all the universe inside a nutshel
how should we call this sutra?
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Rune v3nus
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Posted - 2009.08.01 23:20:00 -
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thanky you very much for all replies-very helpfull:)
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Rune v3nus
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Posted - 2009.08.01 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire I just wonder when OP will get banned for trolling.
is this some form of insult?
thank you.
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